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Re: Who is Sarah Jane Angell?
« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2010, 10:02:07 AM »
I was just asking if the best way forward is to carry on like it is, if there are genuine issues, which a few seem to think there are.

If you genuinely think there are mental health issues is it a civilised way to behave?

I'm not pointing a finger, I'm asking the question.

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Re: Who is Sarah Jane Angell?
« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2010, 10:06:39 AM »
 ;D

When Russell first put up the name I did actually think it was the 40 year old virgin Sarah-Jane that Sector9 told me about yesterday.

From my personal view, I was leaning toward that it was someone taking the p*** as I said, although now I know she is genuine and not an "eric" I thought it was be best to see if she is getting the support she needs.

Anyone seeing the "Who is Russell Hawker" and "I didn't write the last message" posts would have been inclined to have thought that Molly was a wind up character.

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Re: Who is Sarah Jane Angell?
« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2010, 10:06:50 AM »
unfortunately molly does have disability's not sure how far they extend too, but she does have walking difficulties... We have all tried to tell her what to do regarding Russell but it seems to fall on deaf ears... My opinion is that she has grievance's with Teacher's ( maybe she was not taught well ) and councilors ( because she does have a disability and is not getting the help she wants ) but demanding answers and asking the question's she is asking is not helping her. I dont think any one on here would want her hurt or degrade her in any way...what she is doing is bring everything on her self.. IF she does not want help we can not force her to accept it.
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Re: Who is Sarah Jane Angell?
« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2010, 10:13:09 AM »
I agree, help can't be forced, if it is indeed needed.

However she is being degraded, and whether you feel she brings it on herself or not, that isn't right if you genuinely believe she has mental health issues. I don't want a big debate about someone who isn't here to speak for themselves, and I'm not being an arse, it's just my opinion, after observing what went on last night.

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Re: Who is Sarah Jane Angell?
« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2010, 10:21:43 AM »
Everyone is in the difficult situation where her and John take every thread off topic, don't wish to seek to resolve their issues, Russell doesn't want to report them for harassment and Al doesn't want to set precedents by banning them.

I don't think anyone is saying it is easy to resolve, I would say Molly is less of a problem than John as Molly only appears sporadically and is not that prolific, John however can be fairly rapid fire and even when left alone John seems to have conversations with himself.

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Re: Who is Sarah Jane Angell?
« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2010, 10:22:15 AM »
I'm beginning to agree with justice. Like many others I thought she was a troll. It's clear now she isn't, and is a lady who in my opinion needs help and not ridicule. However it is difficult when she comes on here making accusations that in some cases need defending.

For my part I will now ignore her posts, although I think banning her for her own sake may be an option.

I sincerely hope she isn't on her own, and there are loved ones close by that can get her whatever help she needs.
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Re: Who is Sarah Jane Angell?
« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2010, 10:23:27 AM »
Call me a cynic but I think you're all being reeled in
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Re: Who is Sarah Jane Angell?
« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2010, 10:24:45 AM »
Everyone is in the difficult situation where her and John take every thread off topic, don't wish to seek to resolve their issues, Russell doesn't want to report them for harassment and Al doesn't want to set precedents by banning them.

I don't think anyone is saying it is easy to resolve, I would say Molly is less of a problem than John as Molly only appears sporadically and is not that prolific, John however can be fairly rapid fire and even when left alone John seems to have conversations with himself.

I think is is accepted that John is a troll. We can choose to give him the oxygen to continue or we can stifle him by ignoring his random posts. Maybe Al could setup a board so he can chat away to himself.
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Re: Who is Sarah Jane Angell?
« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2010, 10:25:32 AM »
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Call me a cynic but I think you're all being reeled in

Which is why I said, if you think she has mental health issues.............

I dont know the answer.


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Re: Who is Sarah Jane Angell?
« Reply #39 on: October 05, 2010, 10:29:47 AM »
WITH RESPECT, TURN YOUR f'ING CAPS LOCK OFF

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Re: Who is Sarah Jane Angell?
« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2010, 10:30:31 AM »
Molly is real, i have meet her.. she is not a troll she is not Sarah Jane Newbury.. I have Pm her and offered help but not taken it... The trouble is that no makes her come on here !!! and when she does she is just repeating herself or ask questions that no one understands... i tend to not answer if i can help it.. but id she does not get a answer she just repeats repeats and repeats... I am not sure if she is just doing it for attention !!! because i dont think for one minute that she can be classed as stupid far from it..
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Re: Who is Sarah Jane Angell?
« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2010, 10:33:49 AM »
No, I agree that she's not stupid.

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Re: Who is Sarah Jane Angell?
« Reply #42 on: October 05, 2010, 10:41:47 AM »
Rose is spot on.
 
John is a troll. Pure and simple.
 
"Molly" is someone who is obsessed with criticising me. She does not like the way I publicly criticise others and she has become more and more involved in trying to get at me ... one way or the other .... to the extent of writing to councils, posting here, making scenes at council meetings and in public meetings of Leigh Park Community Association.
 
I do not think she is mentally unwell in the sense that she needs to be sectioned or looked after.
 
It is very clear to me that she has issues with:
 
* Understanding and writing complex sentences (this is self-evident from her ramblings in this forum);
 
* Understanding context and proper administration procedures (she thinks she understands basic legal and admin systems, but actually muddles so much up that what she says is just wrong or irrelevant).
 
 
I think she needs medical help to realise what her limitations are so that she knows what limits she can safely operate within ...  to avoid making silly and wrong statements about other people
 
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Re: Who is Sarah Jane Angell?
« Reply #43 on: October 05, 2010, 10:44:00 AM »
Probably best just to ignore her. Even when you reply it doesn't sink in. She is stuck on transmit and can't receive.
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Re: Who is Sarah Jane Angell?
« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2010, 10:46:09 AM »
Probably best just to ignore her. Even when you reply it doesn't sink in. She is stuck on transmit and can't receive.

Yes, these are exactly the symptoms that we all see.
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