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Re: Inflation to rise due to utility bills
« Reply #45 on: May 31, 2011, 17:49:46 PM »
al. who is getting a free ride?.. the water is determined by a fair rates system evaluated by the authorities..

water is in abundance except during natural droughts..

maybe the water companies are actually charging too much on the standing charge and that is causing the problem?

from what i can see is the price of the water usage maybe correct and fair..

maybe the water companies are the ones getting a free ride


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Re: Inflation to rise due to utility bills
« Reply #46 on: May 31, 2011, 18:29:54 PM »
flamin nora, i have just realised something else too.. i forgotten all about it.

england havent had their council tax rebanding and a lot of people remain on a lower RV .... thats why people in england remain on a low banding and cheaper water bills in a few places.. i was in band B (now in band C) and after the welsh assembly revaluations of 2005, england were supposed to do it as well after but tony blair cancelled it..  water rates were higher in england in the past compared to wales for years.






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Re: Inflation to rise due to utility bills
« Reply #47 on: May 31, 2011, 23:54:31 PM »
al. who is getting a free ride?.. the water is determined by a fair rates system evaluated by the authorities..

water is in abundance except during natural droughts..
Water is processed and piped to your house, that needs to be paid for. Sewage is pipped from your house and treated, that needs to be paid for. People should pay according to their usage and those that are frugal with water should pay less than those that are not. Simple as that.
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Re: Inflation to rise due to utility bills
« Reply #48 on: June 01, 2011, 11:25:09 AM »
yea we all know that water gets treated, pumped, flouridised, but water is still pumped to the homes whichever system is used and it is in the price that people pay on either system.

under the RV system that is soley based on a property value which determines the rateable value and inaccurate estimated useage. one glass of water is more expensive than someone elses.. if a house costs 150k and another house 175k in the same street or even 250k, do you think the water price per litre is the same in each address?  after all, electricty is the same price per unit whatever creed, so why isn't water.

the problem with the metered system is, the unit price for water is based on the RV system anyway when they started out in the beginning, even though it is measured and barring the occasional faulty meter, it is accurate. so if the RV system is not accurate enough because it used the RV rate to determine an unit price in the first place, how can a metered unit be accurate too? it can't.  and how come water is more expensive in different parts of the country?  south west water is more expensive.  wessex water is more expensive than other parts

so both systems are flawed.

joe bloggs on 15k a year at the petrol pump in the same garage pays exactly the same per gallon just the same as high flyer on 60k a year.. so why doesn't it work with water?
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Re: Inflation to rise due to utility bills
« Reply #49 on: June 01, 2011, 14:25:54 PM »
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Re: Inflation to rise due to utility bills
« Reply #50 on: June 01, 2011, 15:36:27 PM »
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Re: Inflation to rise due to utility bills
« Reply #51 on: June 02, 2011, 01:05:52 AM »
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Re: Inflation to rise due to utility bills
« Reply #52 on: June 02, 2011, 14:39:52 PM »
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Re: Inflation to rise due to utility bills
« Reply #53 on: June 03, 2011, 23:58:11 PM »
anyway, i would have to agree with one point - water wasters (the obvious ones).. nobody likes it when it gets frivulous which inevitably leads to increased prices and at time unecessary.

what really should have happened all those years ago is under the old rates, they really should have taken into acount the number of people living in a property, even if it was hard to implement under certain circumstances such as temporary lodgers, boarders etc, people moving in, people moving out in a short space of time, even if it was meaning some form of extra admin, and that would mean the property being valuated, adjusted, re-evaluated..

and maybe we wouldn't be in this mess we are in today.

funny how scotland have got their water bills incorporated into their council tax.. i'll have a look at that one.
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Re: Inflation to rise due to utility bills
« Reply #54 on: June 04, 2011, 01:40:55 AM »
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Re: Inflation to rise due to utility bills
« Reply #55 on: June 06, 2011, 18:36:11 PM »
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