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Re: looting
« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2011, 07:30:26 AM »
they should all have to help in the clean up operation too on top of their "punishments"         some people will look at the 10 weeks as a sort of prize..and you can just imagine it... "oohh u only got 20 weeks??   i got 20 but i know someone who got 6 months, he is real had"
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Re: looting
« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2011, 08:59:03 AM »
One looter got a youth referral order, another looter got 6 months. Hardly feeling the full force of the law in my view. Just seen Sky News and one got a whole day in custody!!
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Re: looting
« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2011, 09:23:32 AM »
Quote from: Shizzy on August 11, 2011, 08:59:03 AM
One looter got a youth referral order, another looter got 6 months. Hardly feeling the full force of the law in my view.

 [app] have to agree....  FULL FORCE????   i dont think so
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Re: looting
« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2011, 10:27:00 AM »
I see the press, and police are already questioning the apparently light sentences.
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Re: looting
« Reply #34 on: August 11, 2011, 12:11:30 PM »
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Re: looting
« Reply #35 on: August 11, 2011, 13:00:34 PM »
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Re: looting
« Reply #36 on: August 11, 2011, 17:55:28 PM »
Liberty, and in particular that odious woman Shami Chakrabarti have been noticeable by their absence. No doubt even she realises that her liberal views are not welcome at this time.
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Re: looting
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Re: looting
« Reply #39 on: August 11, 2011, 19:42:39 PM »
money talks as always i would say and sometimes its WHO you know not what you know that helps too.... maybe daddy has good connections plus the money
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Re: looting
« Reply #40 on: August 11, 2011, 20:04:28 PM »
Why are they claiming there were no riots in Scotland?

See this link for riot in Edinburgh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW0356brnrE&sns=fb

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Re: looting
« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2011, 12:00:28 PM »
Again, as with all of this, it depends on their involvement - if she was just driving the car and hadn't been looting, then I don't think she deserves a '14 year' sentence. And as for the thief is a thief comment, it's just not practical to treat all instances the same and I think you know that Mike. If we did, anyone caught nicking a grape from Morrison's could be banged up in jail....that's just insane!

Again, we will know more about these people and their involvement over the coming weeks, until then we're all just guessing as to their involvement.
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« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2011, 12:48:31 PM »
Here you go - a bit more up to date from the BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14504005

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Re: looting
« Reply #43 on: August 12, 2011, 19:02:06 PM »
Quote from: Sector9 on August 12, 2011, 12:00:28 PM
And as for the thief is a thief comment, it's just not practical to treat all instances the same and I think you know that Mike. If we did, anyone caught nicking a grape from Morrison's could be banged up in jail....that's just insane!


If I steal your car, I am a thief! If I steal a cabbage from your garden. I am a thief!

Unless you are saying it is wrong for me to steal something of high value of yours, but OK as long as it is relatively low value!

This differentiating was part of the problem when this downward spiral of response to criminal action started.

These "kids" in court now - how many of them have probably received numerous cautions, a couple of ASBO's already.

One of those prosecuted at 23 years of age had 217 convictions! What is wrong with our Judicial system that after this record he was free to commit further crimes.

Time to go back to basics. One caution, One suspended sentence, Jail (or the old Reform School if they are aged between 10 and 17 yrs).

It has already started here with your comments Sector 9. Start giving these morons even more chances!!

This is why this country now belongs to the YOB and CRIMINAL. They are rapidly joining the other crooks - bankers, fuel company bosses amd politicians!!

AS to the Grammar School girl, I just wondered how she (with a rich Daddy) got bail, but her companions were remanded in custody. They may ALL be innocent as far as I know, but equally they may all be guilty. Has the court already decided she is innocent but her passengers are guilty? Or, are their Daddies not rich?
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Re: looting
« Reply #44 on: August 12, 2011, 23:12:28 PM »
All I'm saying Mike is that I believe the punishment should fit the crime, and IMO 14 years for stealing a grape is excessive - we're all entitledto opinions though (even if MCM doesn't think I should be for some reason!).

I also think we need to be measured and react with our heads not our hearts. I really do want to see these people punished for what they have done, but in a sensible, appropriate manner - ie not revenge.
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