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Offline Michael

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Re: Tory Leadership Elections
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2016, 11:54:40 am »

 
 
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Tory Brexiteers: 'EU is undemocratic'

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Re: Tory Leadership Elections
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2016, 12:42:23 pm »

 
 
George Aylett
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Tory Brexiteers: 'EU is undemocratic'

*May becomes PM from 199 Tory MPs backing her, 0.000004% of population*

'Cant wait for May to be PM'

reminds me of a time in June 2007  ::)

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Re: Tory Leadership Elections
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2016, 13:17:05 pm »

 
 
George Aylett
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Tory Brexiteers: 'EU is undemocratic'

*May becomes PM from 199 Tory MPs backing her, 0.000004% of population*

'Cant wait for May to be PM'

reminds me of a time in June 2007  ::)
And look how that ended up. ;)

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Re: Tory Leadership Elections
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2016, 14:30:39 pm »
The thing is, we don't vote for a Prime Minister. Its not like the US were you elect a president. We elect a local representative ad they pick a leader who becomes PM. Perhaps we should have a system where you vote separately for a local representative and for a leader of the country? Mind you, if we did that, we have President Johnson!
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Re: Tory Leadership Elections
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2016, 18:19:46 pm »
Gordon Brown was not elected PM by the people; James Callaghan was not elected PM by the people; John Major was not elected PM by the people; Stanley Baldwin was not elected (twice) PM by the people. Theresa May will continue as Prime Minister until a general election in four years time . She will then be elected (again by the Parliamentary Party) if the electorate so desires. What is the problem? We do NOT elect Prime Ministers - they are NOT Presidents (despite some of them thinking they are).
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Re: Tory Leadership Elections
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2016, 19:26:52 pm »
I think the problem is that when some people vote at a general election, they vote, or they think they are voting for who they want to be Prime Minister. You hear it said often.

To some extent they are. Regardless of who their constituency candidates might be or how good they may be in representing them, if they don't like the leader of one particular party, they'll vote for the candidate of one of the other parties. If that makes sense?
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Re: Tory Leadership Elections
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2016, 19:40:59 pm »
I think the problem is that when some people vote at a general election, they vote, or they think they are voting for who they want to be Prime Minister. You hear it said often.

To some extent they are. Regardless of who their constituency candidates might be or how good they may be in representing them, if they don't like the leader of one particular party, they'll vote for the candidate of one of the other parties. If that makes sense?


True, but I never liked Cameron but do hold Andrew Murrison MP in fairly high regard. I have certainly preferred him to other candidates put forward in our local constituency elections be they Labour, Lib Dem or UKIP!
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Re: Tory Leadership Elections
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2016, 08:28:17 am »
while its true we don't actually vote for a PM I suspect a fair proportion of the electorate look at the head of the table before deciding on which way to vote.

I certainly did as this person will effectively be the face of our country to the world and lead the country.



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Re: Tory Leadership Elections
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2016, 09:45:23 am »
I also suspect that a fair proportion of the electorate put a cross next to the candidate representing the party that they want in power without even looking or knowing anything about the candidates on the paper or even know anything about each party's manifesto.
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Re: Tory Leadership Elections
« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2016, 12:27:46 pm »
Which, to my mind, is why we need a change in the political system in the UK. Our current system is old and antiquated and does not represent a modern democracy.
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