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Labour candidate loses his deposit in By-election
« on: December 02, 2016, 15:44:10 pm »
So much for Corbyn having any positive effect on Labour ...

Seriously, for Labour to actually lose their candidate's deposit is more than just an embarassment ....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38178486
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Re: Labour candidate loses his deposit in By-election
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2016, 16:44:33 pm »

A somewhat unrepresentative vote, but some lessons can be learnt, Lib Dems claiming that the result was a vote against Brexit, but the interesting thing was the overturning of a Tory majority of 23,000.
There is little doubt that Goldsmith's support for Brexit was opposed by many of his constituents, and the Lib Dems campaign for retention of the single market and a commitment to softer approach seem to have attracted support.
The Green Party's Caroline Lucas openly supporting tactical voting with support for Sarah Olney, and some Labour supporters offering help with her campaign.
When the bye election was first called it was suggested that Labour should not contest the seat, a seat which incidentally they could never have expected to win, having received only 12% of the vote in the 2015 general election.
This does seem to have been a result brought about by tactical voting, and the mess that David Cameron's referendum debacle has left us with.

Richmond Park Results.
 
Sarah Olney (LD) 20,510 (49.68%, +30.41%)
Zac Goldsmith (Ind) 18,638 (45.15%)
Christian Wolmar (Lab) 1,515 (3.67%, -8.68%)
Howling Laud Hope (Loony) 184 (0.45%)
Fiona Syms (Ind) 173 (0.42%)
Dominic Stockford (CPA) 164 (0.40%)
Maharaja Jammu and Kashmir (Love) 67 (0.16%)
David Powell (ND) 32 (0.08%)
LD maj 1,872 (4.53%)
Electorate 77,243; Turnout 41,283 (53.45%, -23.01%)


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Re: Labour candidate loses his deposit in By-election
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2016, 20:29:11 pm »
Well a big improvement for Labour in the Sleaford and North Hykeham by-election, they kept hold of their deposit, managing fourth place. I'm sure the spin doctors can turn that into a triumph.
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Re: Labour candidate loses his deposit in By-election
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2016, 11:19:08 am »
There are certainly lessons to be learnt from this result, the Labour candidate built his campaign around the NHS, and the closure of the local A&E department, while it seems that the electors were more concerned with the back sliding of the government on the Brexit issue.
The Tories were always going to win this seat, and did so, albeit with a greatly reduced majority, down from 25,000 to 13,000, on a very low turnout of 37%.
In number voting terms the difference between UKIP, Lib Dems, and Labour was small, voters will have been clear what UKIP and the Lib Dems policy on leave is, perhaps not so clear on the Labour Party position.
The Tory candidate, a local children's doctor, had always been a leave advocate, and stressed the importance of triggering article 50, an obvious importance in an area which had voted overwhelmingly in the referendum to leave the EU.

The result in full:
Caroline Johnson: (Conservatives) - 17,570
Victoria Ayling: (UKIP) - 4,426
Ross Pepper: (Liberal Democrats) - 3,606
Jim Clarke: (Labour) - 3,363
Marianne Overton: (Lincolnshire Independent) - 2,892
Sarah Stock: (Independent) - 462
The Iconic Arty-Pole: (Monster Raving Loony Party) - 200
Paul Coyne: (Independent) - 186
Mark Suffield: (Independent) - 74
David Bishop: (Bus Pass Elvis Party) - 55
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Re: Labour candidate loses his deposit in By-election
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2016, 19:31:58 pm »
The size of the reduction is less important than the percentage reduction, due to the difference in turn out.

Lib Dem    +5.3%
UKIP         -2.2%
Cons         -2.7%
Labour      -7.1%
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Re: Labour candidate loses his deposit in By-election
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2016, 20:48:55 pm »
I don't quite see your point, the Labour candidate was a supporter of remain, in what was an overwhelmingly leave area, the comparison to the general election is somewhat irrelevant, the real comparison should be with the EU referendum.
It is possible that Jim Clarke chose to fight this seat on the wrong issues, or perhaps he felt strongly about his support for remain, and was less than keen to press the popular view for leave.
Either way I'm sure his stance was an honest one, and one that he was prepared to stand by, that is what you can expect from a Democratic Socialist. :)