Topic: Do we really care about Brexit

[Bob DeBilda]

Dyson's doing what he always does and that is look after number one.

He is keeping his research and development in the UK because he knows, and we all know, the best engineers, innovators, designers and inventors in the world are British. We are the best at manufacturing as well but with quality comes price which is why he has moved his manufacturing to Malasia - cheap labour. Look for Dyson quality to drop. He knows that which is why he is saying his future markets are in Asia where they are used to poor quality products.

Him moving his HQ to Singapore is nothing to do with Brexit. It's in line with most big company bosses ,purely selfish.

[Maxi]

Nissan will move all of their production to Japan on the x trail car where they wont have to pay tariffs when they export to countries which have a deal with the eu, They invested in the Uk as a gateway to Europe.
7000 job losses is not project fear it will be reality.

Liberal Democrat leader Sir Vince Cable said Nissan's withdrawal could be a turning point in Brexit uncertainty, and said it showed that big companies were "very seriously reconsidering their future here".
"I'm afraid that where Nissan leads the others, Toyota, Honda, BMW, the rest of them, we're going to see a down scaling of their operations in the UK," he said.

[Shizzy]

Nissan will move all of their production to France

Nope, the production is going to Japan. Ironic that remainers often criticise the Brexit campaign for peddling lies, but seem to be happy to spread misinformation themselves.

[Bob DeBilda]

Not sure if Maxi had a typo or not but..

Yes, Nissan are moving production to Japan because japan and the EU have just started an economic partnership. why wouldn't they want to trade with the EU. Easier to do that now for them. Too much uncertainty about any future deal the UK could do with the EU.

Job losses are a certainty. Whether the leavers deny it or not.

[Shizzy]

There will be job losses, the same as there will be job gains. Only time will tell if there are more gains than losses.

[baldy]

Nissan will move all of their production to Japan ...

This is deeply misleading.

They are talking about the production of a new car model.

Instead of introducing it as an extra model manufactured in the UK, they are simply keeping it in Japan.

This is almost a non-story.

If they were moving the production to another EU country instead of the UK (because it is leaving the EU), THAT would be a genuinely interesting story indicating a bad consequence of BREXIT.

However, BREXIT has not yet happened and Nissan have not yet confirmed their last word on this matter ...

This is all typical Remoaner nonsense .........   Just give it a rest. You lost the referendum.  Suck it up Snowflakes ...

[Maxi]

Only time will tell if there are more gains than losses.

Very few businesses are saying they will now invest in the uk.But lots have said they are considering moving out of Uk British aerospace one of many.

But Liam fox has announced today The international trade secretary says not having a deal would put the economy under unnecessary turmoil.

He also said "It seems to me we have got to guard against two things. One is an irrational pessimism that says that everything will be a catastrophe and irrational optimism which says everything will be okay.

"The truth lies between the two."
https://news.sky.com/story/leaving-eu-without-a-deal-is-survivable-liam-fox-11627019

[baldy]

Most business leaders are focussed on short-term objectives and they hate uncertainty and they prefer to avoid BREXIT.  Obviously, they are deferring major investment decisions until after BREXIT.

Ignore what all the remoaners lie on and on about ....

The business decisions taken after BREXIT when the terms are known (ie. WTO or EU-UK terms) will be relevant, not bollocks said in the run up to BREXIT ...

[Maxi]

[baldy]

Democracy is based on simple majority voting.

[Shizzy]

Not sure what your point is Maxi, we know the vote was close, but even one extra vote is a majority. Weird how people struggle with the concept of democracy when the vote doesn't go their way.

[Pugwash]

Not sure what your point is Maxi, we know the vote was close, but even one extra vote is a majority. Weird how people struggle with the concept of democracy when the vote doesn't go their way.

How ironic.

Actually
Ref1 - Thursday 5 June 1975
Whinge and moan for 40 years then
Ref2 - 2016

That your concept of democracy?   Try this, a long read , but worthwhile.
 And as to lies, what about the £350M a week for the NHS to become available in April?

[baldy]

The EU did not exist in 1975. The referendum then was about the free trade area called the Common Market - not an EU superstate which is moving towards further integration with even more countries lining up to join .... even Turkey (an Islamic country moving towards dictatorship) ...

The long bullsugar article is a propaganda piece = not worth reading ...

As for the £350m on the side of a bus designed by the official Leave campaign, it was no worse than the utter bullsugar in the leaflet distributed by the official government remain campaign using tax payers money for Operation Fear ...

[Al]

The EU did not exist in 1975. The referendum then was about the free trade area called the Common Market - not an EU superstate which is moving towards further integration with even more countries lining up to join .... even Turkey (an Islamic country moving towards dictatorship) ...

The thing is, Turkey can only join the EU is every member agrees. By your logic we'd be better staying in to stop them joining.

[Maxi]