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Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Reply #540 on: June 10, 2019, 15:30:11 PM »
But each cricket team is selected for each match and tends to change a bit from match to match, and the team manager is not the team captain.

In government, the team leader is PM and has just one chosen cabinet for dealing with all issues.

It's not a similar situation.

You're joking right?

The door to the cabinet office is a swing door. cabinet ministers come and go quicker than a whore's drawers go up and down!

They move from job to job faster than a benefit claimant and get sacked as regularly as a high street shop worker!

As for the leader....
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Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Reply #541 on: June 11, 2019, 14:01:58 PM »
ooops Victoria Derbyshire drops a C bomb whilst talking about Jeremy Hunt. Freudian slip??   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYDlS3snIVo
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Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Reply #542 on: June 14, 2019, 07:42:12 AM »
Well Chuka has joined the LibDems. No real surprise there.
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Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Reply #543 on: June 18, 2019, 20:19:45 PM »
Here is a businessman who knows exactly what to say about nonsense claimed by remoaners:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZibEHDH8G4
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Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Reply #544 on: June 19, 2019, 10:41:14 AM »
Here is a businessman who knows exactly what to say about nonsense claimed by remoaners:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZibEHDH8G4

He doesn't really know what he is talking about. His business doesn't do trade with any EU country so his views are entirely selfish.  Although his figures are accurate, they don't tell the whole story about SME's in the UK.

Here are the facts:

Small businesses accounted for 99.3% of all private sector businesses at the start of 2018 and 99.9% were small or medium-sized (SMEs).
Total employment in SMEs was 16.3 million; 60% of all private sector employment in the UK.
The combined annual turnover of SMEs was £2.0 trillion, 52% of all private sector turnover

In 2018 there were 1.4 million employing businesses and 4.3 million non-employing businesses. Therefore, 75% of businesses did not employ anyone aside from the owner(s).
The overall business population includes three main legal forms: there were 3.4 million sole proprietorships (59% of the total), 1.9 million companies (34%), and 405,000 ordinary partnerships (7%).
Of the 5.7 million businesses, 45% (2.6 million) were registered for VAT or PAYE


His claim that most SME's don't trade with the EU is unfounded. I suspect that if his business did trade with EU countries his attitude would be quite different.
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Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Reply #545 on: July 01, 2019, 22:19:34 PM »
EU signs big trade deals as UK heads towards no-deal chaos


You couldn’t get a bigger a contrast between the opportunities of EU membership and the emptiness of Brexit: the EU has reached a historic trade agreement with key emerging markets in Latin America while Tory leadership contenders brag about their plans for a no-deal Brexit. The EU is building bigger economic opportunities for its citizens. Meanwhile Boris Johnson and Jeremy Hunt compete with absurd Brexit promises of 100-day plans, taskforces, borrowed Canadian prime ministers and bungs to farmers.

Last Friday, the EU finally achieved a trade deal that has been 20 years in the making. Political agreement has been reached with Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay and Uruguay to enable free trade between their South American trading bloc, Mercosur, and the EU.

The result will be a free-trade area covering 780 million people that will save EU exporters £3.6 billion a year in tariffs. This latest deal comes on top of the 15 trade agreements the EU already has with major economies like Canada, Japan and South Korea that have entered into force since 2014.

By contrast Brexit Britain hasn’t managed to reach an agreement with the EU that Parliament can accept, has rolled-over only eleven of the EU’s existing 40 trade agreements with 69 countries and we still can’t agree what kind of long-term trading relationship we should have with the EU. So much for “Global Britain” and that swashbuckling free trade agenda the Brexiters promised us.

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Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Reply #546 on: July 02, 2019, 15:19:30 PM »

Last Friday, the EU finally achieved a trade deal that has been 20 years in the making. Political agreement has been reached with Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay and Uruguay to enable free trade between their South American trading bloc, Mercosur, and the EU.

The result will be a free-trade area covering 780 million people that will save EU exporters £3.6 billion a year in tariffs. This latest deal comes on top of the 15 trade agreements the EU already has with major economies like Canada, Japan and South Korea that have entered into force since 2014.

Not everyone thinks this is a good idea.
Environmental group Greenpeace said the deal was a “disaster for the environment on both sides of the Atlantic.”
It warned the agreement would lead to more destruction of the Amazon rainforest and attacks on indigenous peoples

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Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Reply #547 on: July 02, 2019, 21:20:23 PM »
EU trade deal with South America a risk to farms

The European Union’s trade deal with a bloc of South American countries could have a devastating impact on the environment and Ireland’s farming sector, the Green Party has said.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/eu-trade-deal-with-south-america-a-risk-to-farms-xml5hjnwp

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Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Reply #548 on: July 03, 2019, 08:32:42 AM »
HaHaHa

Who would have thought that bunch of leftie, tree hugging, layabout hippies the Green Party would be used as a reference to criticise a world trade deal...  All in the name of trying to discredit the EU.
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Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Reply #549 on: July 04, 2019, 16:12:18 PM »
It's all slowly slowly coming to light.

Why has Boris suddenly decided to investigate the sugar tax if he becomes PM which seems likely? On the pretense that it is affecting the not so well off financially?

Here's the real reason why:

https://vip.politicsmeanspolitics.com/2019/07/03/daydream-belizers-brexit-big-sugar-and-the-bad-boys-from-belize/


Little known fact: The European Union is the largest beet producer in the world churning out 17 million metric tons per year. The Common Agricultural Policy has long been protectionist towards EU produced beet – even as it (often very reluctantly) reformed other areas. Cane sugar importers pay a tariff of €339 per ton and naturally they do not like it. Would you?

There are only two big players in the UK sugar industry.

British Sugar uses beet in its production process and EU (mostly British) suppliers and thus manufactures its commodity tariff free.

Tate and Lyle Sugars is a cane importer and is thus obliged to pay tariffs on imports. Unsurprisingly, the company has been opposed to British membership of the Union from the very start.

During decades of hostility to the EU/EEC, Tate and Lyle managed to make friends in some very high places and one in particular. Prior to becoming an MP Brexit Secretary David Davis worked for the company for 17 years and was actively engaged in lobbying against the then EEC tariff.

During the 2016 referendum Tate and Lyle Sugars was one of the few big companies to support Leave and this year sponsored the Brexit heavy Conservative Party Conference, a move branded ‘disgraceful’ by British farmers.



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Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Reply #550 on: July 04, 2019, 17:38:17 PM »
Nothing like a good conspiracy theory. Did you know the world is flat?
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Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Reply #551 on: July 05, 2019, 06:40:42 AM »
Here you go Maxi Jaguar Land Rover to build new electric car in the UK protecting thousands of jobs. How would you spin this announcement to suit your agenda?

https://news.sky.com/story/jaguar-land-rover-to-build-new-electric-car-in-the-uk-protecting-thousands-of-jobs-11757066
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Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Reply #552 on: July 05, 2019, 16:53:26 PM »
The post-Brexit vote period has not been kind to the car industry, which is also facing challenges from falling sales in China and demand for diesel vehicles plunging. JLR has been one of the most outspoken manufacturers on Brexit. It announced cuts of 4,500 jobs from its West Midlands plant in January, following 1,500 losses in 2018. It has also warned that a no-deal Brexit could cost it up to £1.2 billion a year.
JLR has been put in a corner and has decided to gamble on the UK’s next prime minister not being reckless enough to plunge the country off an economic cliff. It is clearly uneasy about that gamble. For other manufacturers it might not make as much sense to take the risk, with more flexibility to move operations offshore. The uncertainty of Brexit has seen investment in the UK car industry fall by 47% since 2017 – and we are attracting just a fraction of the global investment in electric vehicles.

Brexiters are irresponsible to use their “despite Brexit” jibe to make out like the UK economy has gone swimmingly since 2016. Ultimately, it is thousands of people’s jobs that will be on the line if hardliners get the disastrous Brexit they want.

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Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Reply #553 on: July 05, 2019, 18:26:07 PM »
Well, ultimately, it is MILLIONS of jobs that may gain from a pure, clean, WTO-terms BREXIT, not least because our fisherman will get back more control of our fishing grounds and there will be trade deals done quickly, that open up the USA market more than ever before --- especially for Car makers like JLR. The yanks love our premium quality cars.
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Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Reply #554 on: July 05, 2019, 21:50:06 PM »
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