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WHN article:  http://www.whitehorsenews.co.uk/blog/2019/04/23/pedestrianisation-of-the-high-street-to-attract-more-shoppers/


A petition is being run against the madcap idea to pedestrianise the High Street.


The fools behind this idea don't seem to understand that easy quick free car access is what a local parade of shops needs, so more of this would be better. Taking all the front of shop on-street parking away will kill off most non-charity shops that we have left.
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What a silly idea! we need the High Street for easy access to otherparts of the town, where would the buses go? Davies would suffer too as many drive through and park outside,they may as well knock the whole damn thing down instead.

The best way to attract more shoppers is to actually have the shops in use and not allow them to stay empty for years on end.

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Brilliant idea, should've done it years ago. Plenty of parking in the car park behind the High Street. No need for cars to park in the High Street or drive through it. Make the area more pedestrian friendly. At last the council thinking outside the box and coming up with sensible ideas.
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Newbury talking out his backside

Chris Newbury, speaking against the idea said, “This plan not only means that people will be unable to park outside of the businesses in the High Street, it would also mean that people would not be able to drive through the High Street to get beyond it to visit shops in Fore Street. The sad reality is that where people can’t park outside, shops die.

They can't or shouldn't drive through to get to shops beyond. It is governed by access only signs. 
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Making the area more pedestrian friendly is not going to bring more shoppers with money to spend in the High Street.

Taking away the convenient front of shop car spaces will reduce the number of shoppers and kill off at least half the shops there and they will end up boarded up.

Pedestrianisation does work in the right places of course, but only when the shops are already trading at a relatively strong level and are attractive enough to bring in shoppers even when the car parking is not super convenient.
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The loss of a handful of spaces is not going to bring the retailers to their knees, not when there is ample free parking a stones throw away.
« Last Edit: May 02, 2019, 19:46:54 PM by Shizzy »
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It will.

I've seen pedestrianisation ruin weak small local parades of shops all over the country when I was specialising in retail property investments for a property company as the national group investment surveyor.

People like you have no idea what you are saying. The idea that a quieter area will draw in more shoppers is just foolish when actually it means they will have to walk further.

Perhaps the most worrying part of it all is that the current free parking in the High Street car park is not at all guaranteed. The car park is run by Wiltshire Council which insists on charging for all tickets. The only reason that free parking exists for the first 2 hours is because a few years ago I proposed that the town council subsidises 2 hour tickets at its cost and Wiltshire Council allowed it.

There is no guarantee that the town council will continue to subsidise the free parking tickets in the car park nor is there any guarantee that Wiltshire Council continue to allow free parking via town council subsidies.

If the on-street parking is removed and if the free car park spaces are stopped, I can tell you that most of the shops will end up in a boarded up state and the whole shopping system will be ruined exccept for charity shops and the supermarkets.
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I'm not sure it will make a huge difference either way  :-\

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I'm not sure it will make a huge difference either way  :-\


Then it would all be a waste of money.
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I guess it could well be. What will it bring to the party? What would you really lose.... nothing of note on either point. There needs to be a better plan than that. Shops that people want to visit are needed and maybe some nice places to eat/drink.

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People like you have no idea what you are saying

so rude as usual
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Will they bring a market to the town? Maybe have a nice Christmas style on over the festive period?

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Im against the pedestrianisation of our high street . Those precious few parking spaces in front of the shops can be the difference between some people being able to access those shops themselves or never getting out and getting others to do their shopping for them.    Im having mobility issues myself and walk with a stick. So can see some issues that maybe able bodied  council member havent.  Just that little bit further to the high street parking behind the shops could mean the difference to someone being able to use the shops or not .  Im no longer able to go round shops like aldi, morrisons home bargains and the like without the use of a trolley. No trolley i dont go in.
I vote in bell orchard, i now have to take the car, walking there i could do at a push ( no seats to rest)  but walking back home to meadow lane  is now impossible without help . I now resort to taking the car.
If im like this at 56 with back and hip issues how are the eldery on their own going to manage? Luckily i can manage on my own with my stick BUT having further to walk would make me possibly change my mind to shopping elsewhere here it is possible to park close to the shops i need to use. .

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to be fair, whatever happens the whole area is like a 1960s area, it won't rejuvenate the the town, but might make it more attractive for artisan shops etc. i'm afraid towns like Melksham. chippenham, devizes have really done their bit to up their town... but  our county town Trowbridge and Westbury are ..lost in the wilderness
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To be fair Dorian Westbury is hampered by having a tatty 1960's shopping centre, we can thank our parents for their love of concrete for that. As they say you can't polish a turd. In an ideal world it would be pulled down and start again.
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