Topic: General Election 2019

[baldy]

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KawAKTrk2No


This is the Labour Party today in one big scrap between a bunch of Labour characters ...


I can watch this over and over ...

[Al]

Baldy, are you a Russian bot?

[baldy]

How many Russian bots do you know who live in Westbury and have a long track record of taking part in local democracy (and winning every ordinary election they stand in at all levels of local government) by actually being elected using their own name with an address in Westbury?

[Al]

Not, but you you appear to be acting like one ATM, thats all

[jimkerr]

The big mistake Corbyn did was to let the Blairite's MP's dictate to him they should offer a remain option. And now those same MP's are blaming him not themselves for the huge defeat in the heartlands of Wales and north being from Wales the anger at Corbyn (Me being a supporter of His) was he betrayed the leave working class voters and bowed down to Blairite's because in the end ever since he become leader of the Party they been trying to get rid.

That and the right wing assassination of him and the cheek of Blair today just makes me angry the Labour Party is now what it should always be a socialist Party Baldy not Looney Left get off your Right Wing agenda the Labour Party is a Socialist Party that now leans to the left and that is what it should be you got the Libs for Centre and me being a member will vote in a MP to lead the party that is not a Blairite because to real members that and he wasn't true Labour so Rebecca Long Bailey at the moment looks likely the next leader.

[baldy]

Well, we've all heard the line that it's good for the Government to have a decent opposition.

Actually, I think it's way more important than that especially when the Government is a Tory one with a large majority.

Way back when I was growing up in Wellhead Lane as a child, my Dad was chairman of the Westbury branch of the Westbury Constituency Association. Later, when he moved to Dilton Marsh, he was chairman of the branch there and I remember distributing Tory election leaflets all over the place with him and others.
Later, in the 90s (NB. There's no apostrophe when an "s" is added to make a plural), I was in Wimbledon Young Conservatives for a long time as secretary or Deputy Chairman or Vice President whilst being a full member of the executive committee of the Wimbledon Constituency Association. Then between 1999 and 2005, I was a member of the Westbury Constituency Association and Secretary of the Westbury branch. The point is that I know what Tories are like.

This huge majority of MPs will make then seriously cocky and over-confident and some of them will come up with all sorts of ideas that will sooner or later start to rock the boat to make the cabinet go off course ...

They really do need a strong opposition to keep them under scrutiny and on their feet at all times.

It's important that Labour gets its act together with a credible leader. Corbyn was never going to be a credible leader; he's quite simply unelectable.

The key issue for Momentum is whether they make sure they get a leader who says what they like, which will lead the party to electoral oblivion, or whether they support a leader who the wider electorate is prepared to vote for.

I've seen no evidence that Momentum is made up of people who understand the need for a leader who is "electable".

Momentum means the death of the Labour Party .... unless and until the moderate MPs and moderate members manage to purge the party of these extremists (I would call them morons because thats exactly what they are) like Neil Kinnock did. I think it will take a decade just to make Labour electable and even then they will only win when the Conservatives make some sort of huge mistake or mess stuff up badly ...

[jimkerr]

Totally wrong it was all about Brexit and I know that they won't vote tory again many welsh Labour voter hate the Tories but wanted Brexit more once its done they will back Labour again if the leader is not a Blairite.

[baldy]

I've been thinking further about the reasons why Labour was thoroughly thrashed and why folk like Jimkerr talk utter irrational rubbish all the time when it comes to the leadership of Labour.

I've come round to the idea that someone from the north with front bench experience and with no charm or character at all is probably better than anyone with an offensively awful / dubious character (eg. a disgusting terrorist supporter who won't sing the national anthem and who won't use our ultimate defensive military weapons = the definition of utterly dangerous scum really) ... so perhaps it does make some sense for folk like Rebecca Long- Bailey to be considered.

Afterall, she would be the first female leader and would be unlikely to be regarded as having a bad character (like Corbyn certainly does).  At the next general election when Labour loses by a slightly smaller landslide, it would then be easier to analyse the policy and credibility reasons for the defeat.

Richard Bergen can be ruled out due to his crocodile smile and the rhythm of his speech is far too annoying to southerners (too many long pauses and the spoken rhythm is like an ape grunting but with words). I don't mind his Mancunian accent, but the rhythm of his speech makes me want to switch over to another channel on TV.

[jimkerr]

Load of Baldy Bollocks 

[baldy]

[Maxi]

The happiest Countries to live, all have Democratic socialist governments.
Finland topped the list last year. The UK came 15th.


https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/03/finland-is-the-world-s-happiest-country-again/

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/03/20/social-democratic-nations-rank-happiest-global-index-again-us-ranking-falls-again

[Shizzy]

The happiest Countries to live, all have Democratic socialist governments.
Finland topped the list last year. The UK came 15th.


https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/03/finland-is-the-world-s-happiest-country-again/

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/03/20/social-democratic-nations-rank-happiest-global-index-again-us-ranking-falls-again

Finland has the third highest suicide rate in Europe. Anyone can source information on the internet to try and support their argument.

[baldy]

True Labour Slogan:

Labour - for the few, not the many.

This is what happens when the party membership is stuffed full of idealistic socialists and marxists who can't understand that to win an election you need the majority of the country - not simply a majority of your own membership - to vote for the party.

NB. The membership of the party is a small minority of the country and does not represent the country.

[Michael]

The happiest Countries to live, all have Democratic socialist governments.
Finland topped the list last year. The UK came 15th.


https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/03/finland-is-the-world-s-happiest-country-again/

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/03/20/social-democratic-nations-rank-happiest-global-index-again-us-ranking-falls-again

Finland has the third highest suicide rate in Europe. Anyone can source information on the internet to try and support their argument.

And your source is?

[Shizzy]

Doing some more research on the WHO website https://www.who.int/gho/mental_health/suicide_rates/en/

What is strange is that the top 7 countries in Maxi's list all have higher suicide rates than the UK ( all numbers are per 100,000 population)

1. Finland  20.8
2. Denmark 13.2
3. Norway 13.6
4. Iceland 21.7
5. Netherlands 12.9
6. Switzerland 15.8
7. Sweden 15.8


UK - 11.9