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Brexit 2021
« on: January 15, 2021, 22:27:21 pm »
I always said I wouldn’t say this but

I TOLD YOU SO

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Re: Brexit 2021
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2021, 15:33:32 pm »
Rubbish.   :)


A few teething troubles during the first few weeks whilst firms who did not set up their new systems right work out what they are supposed to do to avoid problems.


Personally, I can't understand why the lorries don't just avoid Dover and use any of our other ferry ports .... the journey may take a bit longer but the delays would be far less ... unless they have really messed up their paperwork   .... in which case they should not be turning up for a ferry anyway until they get their paperwork correct.




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Re: Brexit 2021
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2021, 11:36:29 am »
Still struggling to come to terms with the result of a democratic process I see.  Where elese have we seen this recently??
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Re: Brexit 2021
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2021, 10:12:18 am »
Still struggling to come to terms with the result of a democratic process I see.  Where elese have we seen this recently??
Just about everywhere you look.

I know it’s ridiculous isn’t it? Nearly 5 years since the (at the time naive) public voted and I still cannot see any significant advantages.

In fact since not having to follow the CAP the UK government has decided that its ok now to kill bees!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/newsbeat-55566438

I’ve no problem with the vote result. Just the consequences of it but should I just lay down and say nothing?
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Re: Brexit 2021
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2021, 15:07:27 pm »


I know it’s ridiculous isn’t it? Nearly 5 years since the (at the time naive) public voted and I still cannot see any significant advantages.



Vaccine roll out
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Re: Brexit 2021
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2021, 16:20:43 pm »


I know it’s ridiculous isn’t it? Nearly 5 years since the (at the time naive) public voted and I still cannot see any significant advantages.



Vaccine roll out

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Re: Brexit 2021
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2021, 14:45:44 pm »
Obviously, the vaccine rollout in the UK has gone well, whereas EU countries were told to let the EU commission organise vaccine procurement for the bloc and that has turned out to be relatively slow and cumbersome in just about every way imaginable so that the populations there are turning on their governments for being inept ...
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Impact of Brexit on economy 'worse than Covid'
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2021, 21:16:41 pm »
The impact of Brexit on the UK economy will be worse in the long run compared to the coronavirus pandemic, the chairman of the Office for Budget Responsibility has said.

Richard Hughes said leaving the EU will reduce the UK's potential GDP by about 4% in the long term.

He said forecasts showed the pandemic would reduce GDP "by a further 2%".

"In the long term it is the case that Brexit has a bigger impact than the pandemic", he told the BBC.

His comments come after the OBR said the cost of living could rise at its fastest rate for 30 years, with suggestions inflation could hit almost 5%.

Speaking after Wednesday's Budget, Mr Hughes said recent data showed the impact of Brexit was "broadly consistent" with the OBR's assumption that the leaving the EU would "reduce our long run GDP by around 4%".

"We think that the effect of the pandemic will reduce that (GDP) output by a further 2%," he added.

The Treasury has been contacted for comment.

What is GDP and how is it measured?
GDP or Gross Domestic Product is one of the most important ways of showing how well, or badly, an economy is doing. It is a measure - or an attempt to measure - all the activity of companies, governments and individuals in an economy.

In a growing economy, quarterly GDP will be slightly higher than the quarter before, a sign that people are doing more work and getting (on average) a little bit richer. If GDP is falling, then the economy is shrinking.

The UK voted to leave the EU in 2016 and officially left the trading bloc on 31 January 2020, however, both sides agreed to keep many things the same until 31 December 2020, before a new trade deal was announced and implemented on 1 January this year.

Supple chain problems
Both the pandemic and Brexit have played a part in current supply chain issues across the UK, and have further exposed the scarcity of lorry drivers, which has resulted in recent shortages of products for businesses and some empty shelves for customers.

However, in the OBR's latest report, the independent body said "supply bottlenecks had been exacerbated by changes in the migration and trading regimes following Brexit".

Supply chain issues has led to the government granting short-term visas to EU workers across certain sectors, including the haulage industry.

The British Poultry Council has said turkey farmers will do their best to ensure Christmas "is as normal as it can be", but warned shortages are likely, due to a shortage of seasonal overseas workers.

The government has assured consumers that turkeys will be available for the festive season and has also deployed temporary visas in a bid to bolster worker numbers.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59070020

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Re: Brexit 2021
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2021, 01:39:41 am »
Well, if you put 10 economists into a room, you will find 11 opinions about the future where one of the views is the so-called average of the views.

Of course, all 11 will turn out to be wrong as the real result will turn out to be different to any of them.

The point is that no-one really knows what the true GDP growth of the UK will be compared to what it would have been but I think it's true that while our economy adjusts to life outside the EU, there will be a perioid of lower than otherwise GDP growth.

Of course, what will also happen later is a period of faster than otherwisde GDP growth as we gather together more and more and better than previous trade deals. No lefty remoaner economist is going to talk about that not least because its too painful for them to admit that it might actually come true.

Remoaners need to remember that many BREXIT supporters are happy to take a hit on our GDP growth to gain other advantages instead like getting back control of immigration.

Let's be honest about this. It means dramatically slowing down all the bloody immigration that was stuffing our towns and cities with too many people and pushing up house prices and undercutting Brits for low paid jobs ...
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Brexit has made it easier for refugees
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2021, 22:26:46 pm »
Refugees living in northern France say Brexit has made it easier for them to reach the UK in small boats, as it emerged that record numbers of people crossed the Channel in one day.

Despite the worsening weather conditions and the UK government’s attempts to deter them, 1,185 people made the crossing on Thursday, according to the Home Office.

Refugees who have fled a variety of conflict zones including Sudan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq and Eritrea told the Guardian they believed the fact the UK was no longer part of the EU made it more appealing to risk the dangerous crossings because they could no longer be sent back to other European countries under EU legislation.

In October 2020 Boris Johnson said Brexit would enable Britain to take back “full control of our money, our borders and our laws”.

Nevertheless, while the overall number of people fleeing conflict and claiming asylum in the UK has fallen to 31,115 in the last 12 months, the number crossing from France to the UK in small boats has risen sharply since the UK parted company from the EU.

Previously, when the UK was part of the EU, under a mechanism known as Dublin the UK could ask other EU countries to take back people they could prove had passed through safe European countries before reaching the UK.

The UK could make “take charge” requests and officials were often able to prove that asylum seekers had passed through other countries thanks to the Eurodac fingerprint database. But since Brexit the UK no longer has access to that database, so it is harder to prove definitively which other European countries small boat arrivals to the UK have previously passed through.

The UK has not so far struck any bilateral agreements with other EU countries to enable it to replicate the Dublin arrangement. Instead officials have labelled many claims where they suspect people have passed through other European countries before reaching the UK as “inadmissible”.

In practice this means many asylum seekers are languishing in the system for extended periods but are not being sent to other countries.

Even before the UK left the EU, only a few hundred people were sent to other European countries in 2020.

A migrant at a distribution centre in Dunkirk run by the charity Care 4 Calais
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The Guardian recently interviewed dozens of asylum seekers in northern France. Many were malnourished, bedraggled and in a desperate state and had fled a variety of conflict zones. Some had travelled through Libya where they had been detained and trafficked.

One 19-year-old man from Sudan who is currently in Calais said: “We believe we will not be safe unless we can reach the UK. Here the French police beat us and evict us every day from the places where we are sleeping outside. It brings back bad memories from Libya where I was locked up and beaten many times by traffickers. Because of Brexit I believe that once I reach the UK I will be safe at last. No Dublin, no fingerprints any more.”

He said he had no money to pay smugglers and would try to find a way to cross with a small group of friends in an abandoned kayak. “Every night we go to the beach to look for small boats that have been abandoned and we will try to cross that way.”

One Kurdish man who gave his name as Navid, and is sleeping in a tent in Dunkirk, said his family had made an arrangement with smugglers to pay for him to cross in a small boat.

“Everyone here is saying to me that because of Brexit it is much easier to find safety in the UK,” he said. “I hope I will manage to cross without losing my life and find a safe future in the UK.”

A Home Office spokesperson said:“The British public have had enough of seeing people die in the Channel while ruthless criminal gangs profit from their misery and our new plan for immigration will fix the broken system which encourages migrants to make this lethal journey. People should claim asylum in the first safe country they reach – rather than making dangerous journeys to the UK. That is why we will have rules in place to make asylum claims inadmissible where people have travelled through or have a connection to safe countries.

“There is a global and European migration crisis and countries have a moral responsibility to tackle the issue of illegal migration. We expect our international partners to engage with us to stop people making perilous crossings.”   https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/nov/12/brexit-easier-small-boat-crossings-to-reach-uk-refugees-say?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3xcK0OaWV520kEMrYN1V4dHHFKyYdBs1d2nG3q1urLHRznDAyDWn5BkjQ#Echobox=1636738096

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Why Britain shouldn't regret Brexit
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Brexit success story to make Remoaners choke on their sea bass
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2022, 04:51:39 am »
Mail Online: Brexit success story to make Remoaners choke on their sea bass: Crews in the Devon port of Brixham net £44million despite Project Fear claiming quitting the EU would sink Britain's fishing industry

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10380581/ROBERT-HARDMAN-Brexit-success-story-make-Remoaners-choke-sea-bass.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ico=taboola_feed_article_desktop_femail
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