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Mail Online: Brexit success story to make Remoaners choke on their sea bass: Crews in the Devon port of Brixham net £44million despite Project Fear claiming quitting the EU would sink Britain's fishing industry

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10380581/ROBERT-HARDMAN-Brexit-success-story-make-Remoaners-choke-sea-bass.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ico=taboola_feed_article_desktop_femail

Telegraph: 


https://youtu.be/xI-TJ7Te-Gc

Refugees living in northern France say Brexit has made it easier for them to reach the UK in small boats, as it emerged that record numbers of people crossed the Channel in one day.

Despite the worsening weather conditions and the UK government’s attempts to deter them, 1,185 people made the crossing on Thursday, according to the Home Office.

Refugees who have fled a variety of conflict zones including Sudan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq and Eritrea told the Guardian they believed the fact the UK was no longer part of the EU made it more appealing to risk the dangerous crossings because they could no longer be sent back to other European countries under EU legislation.

In October 2020 Boris Johnson said Brexit would enable Britain to take back “full control of our money, our borders and our laws”.

Nevertheless, while the overall number of people fleeing conflict and claiming asylum in the UK has fallen to 31,115 in the last 12 months, the number crossing from France to the UK in small boats has risen sharply since the UK parted company from the EU.

Previously, when the UK was part of the EU, under a mechanism known as Dublin the UK could ask other EU countries to take back people they could prove had passed through safe European countries before reaching the UK.

The UK could make “take charge” requests and officials were often able to prove that asylum seekers had passed through other countries thanks to the Eurodac fingerprint database. But since Brexit the UK no longer has access to that database, so it is harder to prove definitively which other European countries small boat arrivals to the UK have previously passed through.

The UK has not so far struck any bilateral agreements with other EU countries to enable it to replicate the Dublin arrangement. Instead officials have labelled many claims where they suspect people have passed through other European countries before reaching the UK as “inadmissible”.

In practice this means many asylum seekers are languishing in the system for extended periods but are not being sent to other countries.

Even before the UK left the EU, only a few hundred people were sent to other European countries in 2020.

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The Guardian recently interviewed dozens of asylum seekers in northern France. Many were malnourished, bedraggled and in a desperate state and had fled a variety of conflict zones. Some had travelled through Libya where they had been detained and trafficked.

One 19-year-old man from Sudan who is currently in Calais said: “We believe we will not be safe unless we can reach the UK. Here the French police beat us and evict us every day from the places where we are sleeping outside. It brings back bad memories from Libya where I was locked up and beaten many times by traffickers. Because of Brexit I believe that once I reach the UK I will be safe at last. No Dublin, no fingerprints any more.”

He said he had no money to pay smugglers and would try to find a way to cross with a small group of friends in an abandoned kayak. “Every night we go to the beach to look for small boats that have been abandoned and we will try to cross that way.”

One Kurdish man who gave his name as Navid, and is sleeping in a tent in Dunkirk, said his family had made an arrangement with smugglers to pay for him to cross in a small boat.

“Everyone here is saying to me that because of Brexit it is much easier to find safety in the UK,” he said. “I hope I will manage to cross without losing my life and find a safe future in the UK.”

A Home Office spokesperson said:“The British public have had enough of seeing people die in the Channel while ruthless criminal gangs profit from their misery and our new plan for immigration will fix the broken system which encourages migrants to make this lethal journey. People should claim asylum in the first safe country they reach â€" rather than making dangerous journeys to the UK. That is why we will have rules in place to make asylum claims inadmissible where people have travelled through or have a connection to safe countries.

“There is a global and European migration crisis and countries have a moral responsibility to tackle the issue of illegal migration. We expect our international partners to engage with us to stop people making perilous crossings.”   https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/nov/12/brexit-easier-small-boat-crossings-to-reach-uk-refugees-say?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3xcK0OaWV520kEMrYN1V4dHHFKyYdBs1d2nG3q1urLHRznDAyDWn5BkjQ#Echobox=1636738096

Well, if you put 10 economists into a room, you will find 11 opinions about the future where one of the views is the so-called average of the views.

Of course, all 11 will turn out to be wrong as the real result will turn out to be different to any of them.

The point is that no-one really knows what the true GDP growth of the UK will be compared to what it would have been but I think it's true that while our economy adjusts to life outside the EU, there will be a perioid of lower than otherwise GDP growth.

Of course, what will also happen later is a period of faster than otherwisde GDP growth as we gather together more and more and better than previous trade deals. No lefty remoaner economist is going to talk about that not least because its too painful for them to admit that it might actually come true.

Remoaners need to remember that many BREXIT supporters are happy to take a hit on our GDP growth to gain other advantages instead like getting back control of immigration.

Let's be honest about this. It means dramatically slowing down all the bloody immigration that was stuffing our towns and cities with too many people and pushing up house prices and undercutting Brits for low paid jobs ...

The impact of Brexit on the UK economy will be worse in the long run compared to the coronavirus pandemic, the chairman of the Office for Budget Responsibility has said.

Richard Hughes said leaving the EU will reduce the UK's potential GDP by about 4% in the long term.

He said forecasts showed the pandemic would reduce GDP "by a further 2%".

"In the long term it is the case that Brexit has a bigger impact than the pandemic", he told the BBC.

His comments come after the OBR said the cost of living could rise at its fastest rate for 30 years, with suggestions inflation could hit almost 5%.

Speaking after Wednesday's Budget, Mr Hughes said recent data showed the impact of Brexit was "broadly consistent" with the OBR's assumption that the leaving the EU would "reduce our long run GDP by around 4%".

"We think that the effect of the pandemic will reduce that (GDP) output by a further 2%," he added.

The Treasury has been contacted for comment.

What is GDP and how is it measured?
GDP or Gross Domestic Product is one of the most important ways of showing how well, or badly, an economy is doing. It is a measure - or an attempt to measure - all the activity of companies, governments and individuals in an economy.

In a growing economy, quarterly GDP will be slightly higher than the quarter before, a sign that people are doing more work and getting (on average) a little bit richer. If GDP is falling, then the economy is shrinking.

The UK voted to leave the EU in 2016 and officially left the trading bloc on 31 January 2020, however, both sides agreed to keep many things the same until 31 December 2020, before a new trade deal was announced and implemented on 1 January this year.

Supple chain problems
Both the pandemic and Brexit have played a part in current supply chain issues across the UK, and have further exposed the scarcity of lorry drivers, which has resulted in recent shortages of products for businesses and some empty shelves for customers.

However, in the OBR's latest report, the independent body said "supply bottlenecks had been exacerbated by changes in the migration and trading regimes following Brexit".

Supply chain issues has led to the government granting short-term visas to EU workers across certain sectors, including the haulage industry.

The British Poultry Council has said turkey farmers will do their best to ensure Christmas "is as normal as it can be", but warned shortages are likely, due to a shortage of seasonal overseas workers.

The government has assured consumers that turkeys will be available for the festive season and has also deployed temporary visas in a bid to bolster worker numbers.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59070020

According to BBC Newsnight investigators last week (Friday I think), GB pig farmers have surged their pork production to meet a massive increase in demand from China over the last 2 years due to much of the Chinese herd being put down due to a terrible swine disease. The Chinese herd has now recovered and so demand from China has now suddenly reduced and instead of just slaughtering pigs and cutting them into a few large pieces for much more detailed butchery in China, GB pig farmers are now swamping GB abattoirs with the same increased numbers of pigs but now also want the detailed cutting up. The consequence is a sudden massive increase in workload for abattoirs to an unprecedented level and the Govt has allowed visas for butchers anyway.


The real problem is abattoirs failing to offer attractive pay for the foreign workers who can get visas to deal with a temporary massive bump in workload. It is hardly surprising that butcherw don't want to enter a sector to deal with a temporary bump in workload as they will just as quickly lose their job later when GB pork production drops back to normal levels.

We had a thriving pig industry in the UK until Brexit.

Now we’ve got the emergency slaughter of 120,000 pigs, farmers facing ruin.

Why? Because this ridiculous govt won’t let EU butchers work here.

And the result? We’re going to have to import pork from the EU.

Shambles.

Quote from: Maxi on September 18, 2021, 07:54:46 AM
Seen on Facebook but relevant to all.
So, you are running out of food on the shelves, fuel in the garages, you can’t buy things you need, because the shops can’t get their supplies.
Why is that? 

BREXIT

Very interesting.

I'm a chartered surveyor looking for a job as a surveyor at the moment. During the Summer this year, the jobs market for surveyors was virtually dead and so I was tempted to look for a second string to my bow that had no connection to property or politics.

I settled on training to be a HGV driver and even got the Trowbridge Job Centre to put me on a list of folk who would be put on a HGV training course that is fully funded by the Government.

Unfortunately, one week before I was due to attend an open day about the course I developed a serious eye condition and had to withdraw. I'm being treated at RUH eye clinic and I understand that my eye problem will either resolve itself over a few weeks or months or I will be given glasses or an operation that sorts my eye sight. Until then, I have been told to stop driving altogether.

As it happens, the jobs market for surveyors has dramatically picked up over the last few weeks, especially in the telecoms sector - I used to be a site acquisition surveyor for Vodafone and other mobile network operators / infrastructure suppliers and I've now started to get replies to my job applications along the lines of let us know when you can drive again ...

To be honest, I'm still tempted to go on a HGV traning course when my eyes allow if I don't get a surveying job soon as I think pay for HGV drivers will rise and I really don't care about the antisocial hours or alleged poor conditions. Most jobs have become harder over the last 3 decades.