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In the News / Another Poll
« Last post by baldy on December 08, 2019, 11:57:01 AM »
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In the News / Re: General Election 2019
« Last post by jimkerr on December 08, 2019, 10:47:06 AM »
Well done baldy keep up the good work for the Right Wing papers which most people don't read. And if I see another so called Poll I will scream even YouGov is owned by a rich tory backer.
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In the News / Labour anti-semitism: secret files of shame exposed
« Last post by baldy on December 08, 2019, 10:18:29 AM »
Sunday Times:     https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/exposed-the-secret-labour-files-of-shame-mwhhfkknv?shareToken=66e8fa7d0e11e747e098c95528e2448e


Labour’s failure to stamp out rampant anti-semitism in the party can be exposed today in a massive leak of documents from its own disciplinary department.
The secret files, seen by The Sunday Times, reveal the party is still overwhelmed with complaints about anti-Jewish racism that have been left unresolved for months or years. Most have resulted in lenient punishments or no sanctions, according to the documents, despite Jeremy Corbyn’s election campaign claims of zero tolerance.
They provide the first comprehensive insight into how Labour has handled the anti-semitism scandal over the past 18 months.
In a leaked audio recording from the party’s disciplinary committee in late October, a Labour official complains that more than 130 cases remain outstanding even though the “vast majority” were reported to the party 18 months ago. One unresolved case had been on Labour’s books for more than three years, according to the recording.
Some of the cases in the files are disturbing, with Labour members likening Jewish people to killer viruses, labelling them “bent nose manipulative liars” and calling for the “extermination of every Jew on the planet”.
One Labour member from Nottingham wrote that “Jews represent a viral infection that need to be completely eliminated” and said he wanted the “complete extinction of all Jews”. It took more than 10 months for the party to expel him after his case was first reported in 2018.
Lord Macdonald, a former director of public prosecutions, said the member in question had clearly committed a racial hate crime. Labour refused to say whether it had referred him to police.
Another member was allowed to stay in the party after allegedly confronting a veteran councillor at a Labour meeting and shouting that he “licked the bum of Jews for money”.
The secret files show half of 100 anti-semitism cases between last summer and this May involved a warning or no action at all. Some members were told to attend “diversity training” although Labour has not set up such a scheme despite promising to do so.
Other members were let off without punishment this year despite posting comments about Holocaust denial and distortion, sharing articles about “a Jewish agenda to obtain the conquest of the gentile world” and saying it was justified to “have a dim view of the Jews”.
The disclosures blow apart claims made during the election campaign by Corbyn that anyone responsible for anti-semitism was “suspended or expelled” from the party.
The leaks paint a picture of the party’s disciplinary process in disarray. According to one memo by Anna Dyer, head of the party’s national constitutional committee, the party’s own lawyers have advised that Corbyn’s much-vaunted internal reforms for fast-tracking cases “present dangers for the party and could be challenged in court”.
Dyer said the lack of communication from the party leadership about the changes was “surreal”.
The evidence in the files shows the severity of some of the anti-semitism in the party.
A Labour member from Birmingham was subject to a complaint after posting on Facebook that the Red Sea was the “ideal destination” to get rid of the Jews “who are a cancer on us all” before adding, “no need for gas chambers anyway gas is so expensive and we need it in England”. It took eight months for him to be expelled from the party after he was suspended by Labour last year.
Another female member based in East Sussex described Sajid Javid, the chancellor, as a “treacherous choc ice” for making comments that were supportive of Israel. She is said to have resigned from the party before a hearing could take place.
Other Labour members’ posts include claims that: “IRA murderers took their cue from Jews”; Jews were behind the 9/11 attacks; and the family of the former Jewish Labour MP Margaret Hodge were “rancid and “all in it together . . . the family of Israel”.
Last night, Dame Louise Ellman, the former Labour MP for Liverpool Riverside, described the evidence as “disturbing” and said: “This reduces to rubble my party’s claim that anti-semitism in the party is being dealt with.
“It is beyond belief that members can make statements of Holocaust denial and call for Jews to be completely exterminated yet remain in the party for months or years or receive a mere slap on the wrist.”
Labour said claims about the large numbers of unresolved complaints were “categorically untrue” and said people would now be expelled in weeks rather than months as a result of new powers introduced by Corbyn.
“This is proof of the robust action the party is taking to root out anti-semitism,” it added. “No other party has introduced rapid expulsion processes.”
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In the News / Poll: Tories down to eight-point lead - majority of 14 predicted
« Last post by baldy on December 08, 2019, 10:09:39 AM »
Sunday Telegraph: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/12/07/general-election-poll-tories-eight-point-lead/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_em


The Conservatives' lead has fallen back down to eight points over the last week, according to a poll which puts the party on course for a majority of 14.
A Savanta ComRes poll for The Telegraph suggests the gap between the Tories and Labour has narrowed to match the lead Boris Johnson enjoyed shortly after the formal start of the General Election campaign.
However half of those surveyed (46 per cent) said they would feel worried if they woke up on Friday to find that Jeremy Corbyn was the new prime minister. Some 38 per cent said they would feel worried to find that Mr Johnson was to remain in Downing Street.
The poll put the Conservatives on 41 per cent and Labour on 33 per cent, matching The Telegraph's first Savanta ComRes poll of the campaign, which was published on November 16.
The Conservatives have dropped by one point and Labour have gained a point since an earlier survey published by The Telegraph on Wednesday. The Liberal Democrats remained on 12 per cent and the Brexit Party's share of support stayed steady at 3 per cent.
On Saturday the results of a separate Savanta ComRes survey, for Remain United, emerged which pointed to just a six point lead for the Conservatives. However it was begun two days before the separate survey for this newspaper, suggesting it may be more dated. Unlike the poll for The Sunday Telegraph, it did not quiz all respondents based on the candidates standing in their particular constituencies - a method known as a full ballot prompt.
The survey comes ahead of a significant campaigning push by the Conservatives in the final days of the campaign, with Mr Johnson expected to criss-cross the country as the party's headquarters simultaneously spend hundreds of thousands of pounds on digital advertising. On Friday night a YouGov poll found that the public was split by 52 per cent to 48 per cent on whether the BBC Leaders debate was won by Mr Johnson or Jeremy Corbyn.
The Conservatives are hoping to make gains in Leave-voting areas in the Midlands and the North, where projections suggest they could win Labour-held seats such as Ashfield and Bolsover, in the East Midlands.
The proportion of respondents planning to vote for the Conservatives was above the national average in Yorkshire and Humberside (42 per cent) and the East Midlands (44 per cent) as well as the South East and South West, which are home to many of the party's traditional supporters.
In the North East and North West, 39 per cent and 32 per cent respectively said they were planning to vote for the Conservatives, compared to 31 per cent in the North East who said they voted for the Tories in 2017, and 28 per cent in the North West. Labour's share of support was highest in the North East, at 45 per cent, according to the poll.
Overall, more than four in five (84 per cent) of those who voted for the Conservatives in 2017 said they were intending to support the Tories this week, while three-quarters of 2017 Labour voters intend to vote for Labour on Thursday.
Asked to choose from eight emotions, respondents were more likely to feel worried, dismayed or sad if they wake up on Friday to find that Mr Corbyn had become prime minister.
Some 44 per cent said they would feel dismayed if the Labour leader entered Downing Street, as opposed to 35 per cent who said they would be dismayed if the winner was Mr Johnson.
More than a third of voters said they would be optimistic if Mr Johnson remained prime minister, but only 21 per cent said they would be excited - compared to 24 per cent for Mr Corbyn.
Savanta ComRes surveyed 2,034 British adults online on between Dec 4 and Dec 5. Chris Hopkins, the pollster's head of politics, said: “The margins are incredibly tight at this stage of the election, where the Conservative lead over Labour dropping or increasing by one or two points could be the difference between a hung parliament and a sizeable Conservative majority.
"As we’ve seen in recent elections, the final few days of the campaign could be crucial and may still define which leader finishes 2019 as Prime Minister.”
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In the News / Re: General Election 2019
« Last post by jimkerr on December 07, 2019, 23:39:21 PM »
lol Bob.

Here's a poem (Not by me)

Twas the night before Christmas, and all through the nation,
There was misery, poverty and great deprivation
Some stockings were empty, some fridges were bare,
The heating turned off, little money to spare.

Boris Johnson was cosy, a quaffing champagne,
Cognac and Port so he’s feeling no pain,
Stuffing his chops on goose flesh and gammon,
Caviar, Stilton and the finest smoked salmon.

The homeless are shivering in cardboard containers
Ex-Servicemen, youngsters, both Leave and Remainers
The nurses and doctors all still searching for beds
With a shortage of staff, of money and meds

The Moggs singing carols with moguls and bankers,
Hedge funders, financiers and various w*nkers
Admiring his baubles and pulling his crackers,
Rejoicing that he's got us all by the knackers.

Your Gran's in the corridor, still on the trolley
While the Chancellors counting the last of his lolly
And Grandad’s in pieces, stemming his tears
Though they’ve paid their dues these past sixty years

But hey, Goves on the sherry and is quite off his tits
While his missus is battered and doing the splits
And Drunken Smith is a singing along with the Pogues
With the rest of the mob and a few Russian rogues

And the kids who are dreaming of gifts in the morning
Won’t get them- their benefits were stopped without warning
While those whose dosh is in off-shore accounts
Will be rubbing their hands as the grand total mounts

And the Waspi woman alone in her kitchen
Has long given up on Dancer and Blitzen
She was robbed of her pension, they don’t give a sugare
That she’s freezing and hungry on Christmas Eve night

And now, here’s the end of my last festive story

Don't forget to vote- unless you're a Tory.
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Over the last few weeks, there has been a series of articles and Letters to the Editor of WHN based on complete and utter nonsense that seems to assume that Wiltshire Council has chosen its route for any future new Westbury A350 bypass.   NB. It has not!

I am not talking about the letter from Dorian Jones which is the one letter that is not pure rubbish based on rubbish.

The whole nonsense that I am referring to starts with a front page article which quotes Cllr Gordon King who appears to have been trying to repeat what Allan Creedy said at the above-mentioned area board meeting about the way forward for a Westbury A350 bypass. When I read what Cllr King is quoted to have said, I felt that either Cllr King was drunk (unlikely) or he was making it all up (maybe) or he was very confused (maybe) or perhaps it was a mix of total confusion by him and then confused editing by WHN leading to an utterly misleading article about nonsense based on pure rubbish.

Cllr King is quoted saying that Wiltshire Council intends to apply for a grant for a bypass going to the east and south of the town so that more housing development would occur on the land between the town and the bypass.

I can tell you that no such thing was said at the meeting and that what Cllr King is talking about can only be pure speculation.

The reality is that Allan Creedy made clear that no route has been chosen yet and that any new bypass project would start with consultations on possible routes and that no route is ruled in or out at this stage. He specifically said that all options would be analysed.

At the area board held on Thursday this week, I got the minutes of the October meeting adjusted to reflect the above reality about what Allan Creedy did say and the 4 person board including both Cllr King and his wife Cllr Mrs King agreed my clarification.  I do wonder if Cllr King will be writing something to retract or clarify the utter nonsense that was printed in the WHN in his name and which has led to utter nonsense in the printed letters section.
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In the News / Re: General Election 2019
« Last post by Bob DeBilda on December 06, 2019, 08:11:48 AM »
A man of Peace and has fought against racism all is life winner of two peace Prize's unlike Bojo and the Tory Party he can't be bought the Tories are given Millions by Rich Russian's and by Rich money men.

Daily Mail, The Sun and Daily Express are all run by Right wing rich men who don't want the labour Party in to bring the billions of stashed away money back into to this country they will do and say all kind of rubbish and its funny you got to laugh even the rich jews don't want Labour in funny not seen any media about the Jewish People who support Corbyn in the media they cant find anything on the Man that he has said anything Racist yet Boris a known Racist wtf you support.

My god! have you heard of punctuation?

 :o There’s at least two full stops in there.  ;D
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In the News / Re: General Election 2019
« Last post by Bob DeBilda on December 06, 2019, 08:07:09 AM »

Mr Corbyn isn't being criticised for not listening to the Queen's Christmas message.  He's being criticised for pretending he listens to it when clearly he doesn't.


Like we all do?
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In the News / Re: General Election 2019
« Last post by John GL on December 05, 2019, 22:37:41 PM »
He's a fool Racist is just one thing Tank Top Bum Boys ? imagine if Corbyn had said anything like he as it's not a Fair country when the likes of Johnson gets away with things because he's a Clown and yet Corbyn Can't even miss the Queens Speech at Christmas without it being big News unfair Media needs to be sorted out and I hope he gets in to sort this unfair uncaring crap country out.

Mr Corbyn isn't being criticised for not listening to the Queen's Christmas message.  He's being criticised for pretending he listens to it when clearly he doesn't.
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In the News / Re: General Election 2019
« Last post by Pete on December 05, 2019, 17:55:07 PM »
A man of Peace and has fought against racism all is life winner of two peace Prize's unlike Bojo and the Tory Party he can't be bought the Tories are given Millions by Rich Russian's and by Rich money men.

Daily Mail, The Sun and Daily Express are all run by Right wing rich men who don't want the labour Party in to bring the billions of stashed away money back into to this country they will do and say all kind of rubbish and its funny you got to laugh even the rich jews don't want Labour in funny not seen any media about the Jewish People who support Corbyn in the media they cant find anything on the Man that he has said anything Racist yet Boris a known Racist wtf you support.

My god! have you heard of punctuation?
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