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https://www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/news/17674803.fumes-mean-towns-are-choking/

No surprise to local residents. Anyway at least the biggest opponent to a Westbury by-pass is living in an area free from pollution.
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In the News / Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Last post by DORIAN on May 30, 2019, 14:34:49 PM »
Our country is split down the middle, whether in or out , i cannot see this getting anywhere, even the Forum cant decide,!! however a no deal is pretty damn worrying
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In the News / Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Last post by Bob DeBilda on May 30, 2019, 14:31:02 PM »
Yup, prosecute her!!  To be fair, she never said which year though.

As you say they all lie, just some tell bigger lies with bigger consequences than others.
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In the News / Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Last post by Shizzy on May 30, 2019, 10:59:18 AM »
Maybe Theresa May should be prosecuted because she said we would leave on 31st March.
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In the News / Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Last post by Bob DeBilda on May 30, 2019, 10:30:32 AM »
It probably will be thrown out on a technicality.

It doesn't alter the fact that he lied. We all know that!

If a referendum is won on the main leave group lying and getting illegally funded, surely the result should be void? What's the point in having rules otherwise?
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In the News / Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Last post by Shizzy on May 30, 2019, 09:30:57 AM »
I predict this will be thrown out before it reaches a trial. More mud slinging by people who can not accept the result of a democratic process. We are in a dark time with regards to democracy, with a significant number of people unwilling to  accept results and resorting to underhand methods to try and impose their views.
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In the News / Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Last post by baldy on May 30, 2019, 09:04:22 AM »
Well, I would prefer BOJO to defend the action on the basis that the claim or statement was essentially true or was based on some sort of relevant fact. It seems he is concentrating at this stage on the legal procedures first so he is trying to get the case dismissed as not one that should go to court anyway.

I noticed that one point in the charge is that he was in a public office at the time - ie. Mayor of London.  I find this odd as he was in fact acting in a political campaign which had nothing to do with this office.

As a councillor (previously town and district and currently a unitary councillor), I've tangled with the exact same code of conduct systems which also apply to Mayors. I well remember BOJOs predecessor, Ken Livingstone, being suspended by the Adjudication Panel for England (which became part of the first tier of tribunals before it was dismantled in 2012) after hearing complaints that he had been antisemitic in public. Ken took his appeal to the High Court which immediately suspended his suspension and later decided that Ken was not actually on duty as Mayor when he abused a Jewish reporter.

This legal point of a public servant only being on duty when actually at work or at other events when undertaking his/her duties or writing stuff in their public role etc, means that an accusation of a breach of their responsibility to abide by a code of conduct does not apply when off duty or actually doing something else. The APE tribunal decision was overturned and the case was thrown out on the basis that Ken was not on duty as Mayor.

In particular, it is a well established point that the code of conduct does not apply when campaigning for political elections. The issue here I think is that BOJO was not a candidate himself. He was leading a political campaign as a national political figure ... which I expect he will argue did not mean he was actually acting as London Mayor but as BOJO, the national figure who also has been MP, Mayor, TV character, journalist, author etc etc ...

I fully expect this case to be dismissed on the basis that BOJO was not acting in his official public role (Mayor of London) at the time of leading the Leave campaign.

A lot will depend on whether he signed anything with the claims on as Mayor or used his Mayoral official notepaper.  It will not be sufficient that people simply say he was Mayor at the time. They need to show he was specifically acting in his role as Mayor and not mistakenly calling himself Mayor when he was not doing Mayor-type work etc ...
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In the News / Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Last post by Shizzy on May 30, 2019, 08:20:57 AM »
All politicians lie. This action is obviously politically motivated by a remainer who can't accept the result. Why not prosecute JC for lying about supporting the result of the referendum, or Nick Clegg for saying he wouldn't introduce tuition fees?
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In the News / Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Last post by Bob DeBilda on May 29, 2019, 18:54:34 PM »
We don’t need a court to tell us BoJo the clown is a lying Barsteward.
 Him, Gove, Fromage et al = lying bastar*s

Their lies persuaded enough gullible people to vote leave and for us to end up in the sugare.
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In the News / Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Last post by Shizzy on May 29, 2019, 12:57:48 PM »
Anyone can crowd fund and launch a court action. Wait and see what the result is.
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