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Westbury News & Discussion / Re: Bus timetable
« Last post by Debs on January 17, 2020, 17:34:08 PM »
So how are people supposed to get around if they dont have a car? Not everyone is able or whats to drive.
Are we just supposed to take it lying down and accept shoddy service?    What about those who work or go to college in trowbridge , bath or salisbury
So all the houses that are up for sale that says it has good public transport links are lying i take it?    Ive yet to investigate the train time tables
Westbury News & Discussion / Re: Bus timetable
« Last post by Old Codger on January 17, 2020, 17:20:46 PM »
I'm not surprised the service is not viable starting and finishing in the middle of no where, surely anyone with a slight bit of intelligence would let the service start or finish at Westbury, I reckon its the same person that messed this up thats wrote the new train time table.
Westbury News & Discussion / Re: Bus timetable
« Last post by baldy on January 17, 2020, 16:57:48 PM »
My understanding is that First Bus don't make any money on this route and regard it as unviable.

It would not be surprising if they just withdraw all the buses from the route sooner or later.
Here is my speech today:
FACT: All of Cllr Kimmins claims are wrong and based on junk – wrong guidance and wrong analysis of the law.

FACT:  We are gathered here today because the Wiltshire Council standards system for councillors fails to properly explain what the code really means and because the procedural system to deal with allegations of any breach is deeply flawed with unfairness occurring almost all the time at almost every stage except when lawyers manage to correctly advise the relevant councillors on what to do.

FACT: The Wiltshire Council standards system is deeply confused about how to interpret any code of conduct. The council has even adopted a piece of nonsense that it refers to as guidance. This was an illogical attempt by the then leader of the council to put “respect” back into the post-2012 code of conduct. The problem is that this guidance cannot change what is already written in an adopted code and it cannot change the meaning of words that are there in the code and it cannot put words in that are certainly not there in the first place..

FACT: Her Majesty’s new government has a massive mandate based on its manifesto which clearly said that it will champion freedom of expression and tolerance.

FACT: When I was a district councillor for 6 years, I – like Cllr Carbin – benefited from regular seminars put on by a competent monitoring officer and standards committee – about the meaning of the then statutory code of conduct. There were also various guides circulated by the then standards board which made it clear that freedom of expression was a powerful right which applied to councillors at the higher level to enable robust political debate.

FACT: Various High Court cases – referred to in the papers before you – make clear that Councillors are required to have thick skins. Trying to be both a snowflake and a politician is a recipe for all sorts of nonsense and false claims to a code of conduct system which fails to explain what conduct is allowed in the first place.

FACT:  All of the relevant legal argument for my defence is set out in the papers before you.

FACT: I am entitled to expect that the law of the land will be applied correctly.  Whether you choose to end these false allegations now or allow them to proceed, I assure you that the correct law will be applied by the end of this matter.

FACT: The Westbury Town Council code of conduct, like the Wiltshire one, does not contain the requirement for respect.

FACT: I have no case to answer.

FACT: The Wiltshire Council code of conduct system needs to look at itself and correct its many flaws and actually start to explain it all properly to councillors and the public.  Good luck.
Today, the Standards Review Sub-committee of Wiltshire Council considered the request for a review of the monitoring officer's decision in the first case (which threw out all the allegations and confirmed no further action) and decided to uphold the Monitoring Officer's decision.

So, the Result of the First Case about a long list of false allegations about breaches of the code of conduct of Westbury Town Council made by Cllr Sheila Kimmins (a co-opted town councillor and current deputy mayor) against me, is that all of her allegations have been thrown out.

I now await the final investigation report and decision by the monitoring officer on the second case.
Westbury News & Discussion / Re: Bus timetable
« Last post by Debs on January 17, 2020, 14:34:52 PM »
Sorry   cant seem to upload the photo of the piece in the whn about the bus timetable
Westbury News & Discussion / Bus timetable
« Last post by Debs on January 17, 2020, 14:33:08 PM »
 I havent been well for the past week. So i havent been able to take My partner to work as usual. We have tried the buses. We were thinking we couldnt have been looking at them properly. Then i read this piece in the newspaper this morning. Its totally unacceptable. I thought the government were trying to encourage the public to use public transport.    He works at airsprung. And cannot bet there for 7.45 start using buses.  And this mornings trip was even a bigger laugh . He has to be there by 5.45 am to work... again no buses...    and my friends who have taken him this week dont need to start 2 hours earlier themselves. So he dips out again...or would have IF I HADNT CRAWLED out of bed and drive him to work and crawled bk in bed when i got home. Coming home in the evening he finishes at 4.30pm and still doesn't get through the door well after 6 for what is effectively a 15 min journey
Ive had to resort to asking my range of fb friends if they are going that way and able to help out
I would say this new system isnt working out for the people who use it. What is with the starting point at hawke ridge estate??? How bloody dangerous is that? No pavement to access that road at all. On dangerous dark UNLIT bends.  Having to walk 5 bus stops in order to catch a bus is ridiculous... If it wasnt for the fact i take him on a daily basic he wouldnt be able to Work because would be unable to access public transport. Those who have been through the job centre process will know that they wont accept no public transport as a reason for not taking a job.? He had been sent to the other side of frome to yoghurt dessert factory knowing he couldnt drive and  public transport couldnt get him there.

General Discussion / Re: New shop for trowbridge
« Last post by Debs on January 17, 2020, 14:06:50 PM »
Oh I forgot to say Debs. I hope your daughters baby business booms !  (baby boomer)  ;D

There used to be one down Maristow Street that I was always in with Mrs DeBilda getting stuff for the grandies. That was a great shop.

Thank you  .  us too .   This is going to be different to the one in maristow street. This is all new items. No secondhand.  Katy is specializing in tiny and newborn / preemie babys mostly but other sizes available.  She  will be embroidering a lot of her items on request. Hopefully braching out to work logos / branding etc. There will also be handmade baby items.   My pom pom baby blankets and baby hats.
Westbury News & Discussion / Re: What's the point of Westbury
« Last post by baldy on January 16, 2020, 14:42:12 PM »
Well, most of the time the emissions from the gasification plant will be carried on the wind towards Devizes. In reality, the only people affected actually in the town will be those up on the hill at The Butts, Newtown and Studland Park during a northerly wind (ie. one going south from the north).

When I spoke to the Hills technical adviser about this, he basically said that it will be really no different to the exhaust coming from nearby residential dwelling gas flues spreading out amongst the nearby homes when the wind blows the wrong way. He was adamant that by the time the exhaust gasses from the Hills plant hit the ground a mile or more away, they will be so diluted that they will be no different to the more nearby gasses from the nearby gas flues.

One of the issues is that the gas being burnt and released to air is basically similar to the old coal gas. Not great, but not any sort of really dangerous stuff like if the actual waste was being incinerated with all the gasses released.  The gasification process basically heats the waste to extract "Syngas". All the nasty stuff becomes a sort of clinker that can be used as hardcore in the bottom layer of roads etc. 

This is why the law allows this sort of plant to happen.

I noticed that Friends of the Earth are still going on about the planning permission and are asking Wiltshire Council to withdraw the permission.  This just shows that Friends of the Earth do not understand the planning process. Wiltshire Council cannot withdraw planning permission. If they ever attempted it, the council would just be sued for the entire lost profits of the plant. It is not going to happen - not ever. It's just a daft stunt by Friends of the Earth. I do not understand why they are doing this except to gain publicity for failing to make any difference to anything on this matter.

The real issue is the public consultation by the Environment Agency, when that comes, on the application by Hills for an operating licence. That is the process that will consider environmental issues. In law the council could not take account of issues that will be considered by the Environment Agency (EA) in its licencing process. It had no choice in law but to issue the planning permission because the plant complies with all relevant planning policies - whatever nonsense the objectors keep bleating on about. They are simply talking complete rubbish.
Westbury News & Discussion / Re: What's the point of Westbury
« Last post by Dana Scully on January 16, 2020, 12:46:46 PM »
It is a commuter town now, just one big housing estate without any proper services, the shops are rubbish, the tight knit community has gone, I hate it here now, if we could move out then we would, there are many more houses planned which will make the situation even worse, Westbury as a small market town is dead sadly.  Once the gasification incinerator arrives, perhaps the commuters will regret movng here once their children develop breathing problems.Come to the contryside for fresh air! yeah right!

What a dump! soon the dump of the south west with everyones waste coming here to be disposed of.
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