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In the News / Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Last post by baldy on February 19, 2019, 17:09:52 PM »
Indeed, but the key word here is Parliament,  not as you stated,  " the Government can change the law quickly if needed ".

well, I meant parliament which includes all MPs and the Government.

Clearly, the Government alone does not have control unless it has a clear working majority. Who knows if that applies right now on this issue ...
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In the News / Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Last post by baldy on February 19, 2019, 17:08:02 PM »
After supporting Brexit, Britain’s richest man, Sir Jim Ratcliffe, has announced plans to move to Monaco. The 65-year-old who is the CEO of the chemical firm Ineos and has an estimated fortune of £21 billion. He said during the 2016 referendum that he believed Britain would prosper outside of the European Union but isn’t sticking around after Brexit. Doesn’t that sound familiar?

-Brexiter: Jim Ratcliffe, UK’s richest man, plans move Monaco
-Brexiter: James Dyson moves company Singapore
-Brexiter: John Redwood advises investors to put money abroad
-Brexiter: Jacob Rees-Mogg firm opens funds Dublin
-Brexiter: Nigel Lawson seeks French residency

https://www.indy100.com/article/jim-ratcliffe-brexit-leaving-the-uk-monaco-tax-haven-save-8783211?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1dizsGszEpnh2LqOvWhm7z4nw0opRJNRXOoZRgrerZo5bzZVd3NAyrdfE#Echobox=1550409135


So ... ?

No change here. This is going on all the time and has been for decades, especially when Labour is in power.

In terms of individuals moving their main residence to overseas tax havens, they will only save tax on their own earnings and un-earned income from investments. Their businesses in the UK would still pay Corporation Tax, VAT, Business rates, National Insurance, Capital Gains Tax and their employees will be paying income tax on their salaries etc.  So, actually, the loss to the Uk is not quite as bad as it might at first look.

None of this is connected to BREXIT as this is simply the continuation of what has been going on for ages.  The only real issue as far as I can tell is whether it would increase if Labour got into power. One could argue that some of these wealthy individuals are moving now to make sure they've already protected their personal wealth if Labour get into power.
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In the News / Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Last post by Pugwash on February 19, 2019, 17:03:00 PM »
Indeed, but the key word here is Parliament,  not as you stated,  " the Government can change the law quickly if needed ".
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In the News / Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Last post by baldy on February 19, 2019, 16:57:23 PM »
Parliament is supreme.

That's the whole point in the end.

Of course, parliament is accountable via general elections, so that would be when true justice is delivered ..... and I'm making no predictions at this point except that if Corbyn is the Labour leader at the time, he won't be the next PM.
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In the News / Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Last post by Pugwash on February 19, 2019, 16:54:27 PM »
Oops ...


Well, this could keep going up to the Supreme Court is suppose for a final decision...


Right. I've reread the Wiki article.

I assumed that the latest judgement was the Appeal Court decision.

But, as you say, the Appeal Court decision has not been made yet. 

So, in reality, we all await the next decision ...

Of course, MPs and the Government can change the law quickly if needed ...

That would be akin to moving the goalposts, i.e  more cheating on top of the corrupt and illegal practices found by the Electoral Commission, and would prove that the UK has the best judicial system money can buy.

I was always told that cheats never prosper, one would hope so.
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In the News / Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Last post by baldy on February 19, 2019, 16:45:27 PM »
Oops ...


Well, this could keep going up to the Supreme Court is suppose for a final decision...


Right. I've reread the Wiki article.

I assumed that the latest judgement was the Appeal Court decision.

But, as you say, the Appeal Court decision has not been made yet. 

So, in reality, we all await the next decision ...

Of course, MPs and the Government can change the law quickly if needed ...
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In the News / Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Last post by Bob DeBilda on February 19, 2019, 16:43:37 PM »

Remainers will always try to twist a scenero to suit their cause...you lost the vote BUT still cannot get over it...sadly facts get the way of abit of scaremongering when really its time to stop fighting pull together & get through this as a team instead of wagging fingers.


I don't think anyone's fighting are they. Just presenting facts to suit themselves. That gets done all the time.

My main gripe (and call me a remoaner if you want I don't care) is the way the the voters were lied to and conned by criminal activities by the Vote Leave campaign group and who have seemingly got away with it. there is no doubt that people's votes were swung by their deception. Enough  to tip the referendum result.

i really hope I wont have to say 'I told you so' in a years time.

I forget who said no deal is better than a bad deal but i disagree. Any deal is better than no deal.
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In the News / Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Last post by baldy on February 19, 2019, 16:23:13 PM »
Oops ...


Well, this could keep going up to the Supreme Court is suppose for a final decision...

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In the News / Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Last post by Pugwash on February 19, 2019, 16:10:06 PM »
Of course the Court's decision is the Law. However, the Appeal Court Judge's decision has been overruled by  Lord Justice Hickinbottom,  and a new decision will be made at the hearing on Thursday, and that will become Law.
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In the News / Re: Do we really care about Brexit
« Last post by baldy on February 19, 2019, 15:56:57 PM »


Others apparently didn't agree with the Appeal Court Judge's decision.




So what?

Do you realise that the Court's decision is the Law.

An opinion by anyone on this is of no useful value unless they can change the Law.

As far as I am concerned an opinion by a lefty journalist on the matter is worth even less. It shows that their opinion is worse than useless.
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